In Conversation: Matt Watkins 'The AI Underworld , and how to be optimistic about it'

£6.00

Wednesday, 16th September 7pm

Want to know more about AI?

SolidGoldMagikarp - A Descent into the AI Underworld a book by Matthew Watkins is a gripping descent into the hidden psychology of AI, and the strange subcultures trying to control it before it destroys us!

Watkins will be in conversation with Latham about the book and how his time in Berkeley, California studying a precursor to ChatGPT led to mind-boggling discoveries and ultimately, some hope for humankind.

Mathematician Matthew Watkins is also a local historian, DJ, psychonaut and 'the most exhiliratingly intelligent author of the thousands I have met' , says Dr Martin Latham, author of the Penguin paperback  The Booksellers Tale, and Waterstones Canterbury Manager 1990-2025.

An innocuous looking trigger word sent a frontier language model into what looked like full-blown paranoia. Was it a simple bug? A trail of breadcrumbs left by whistleblowers? Or a glimpse into how AI really thinks?

The search for answers pulls Watkins into the sci-fi world of AI safety research. In this rapidly expanding domain, the line between science and belief blurs: billionaires play god while rogue chatbots win fortunes and cult followings. What starts as a computer mystery becomes something much bigger: both a window into the eerie inner worlds of large language models. 

‘Top notch. Unfolding like a nerdy occult techno-thriller, Watkins tells the weird tale of how he discovered two ghosts in the LLM machine - ‘glitch tokens’ whose uncanny behavior makes it clear, at least, that AI will enchant as much as it will disrupt. The deets are important, and Watkins presents them with care and clarity. But equally valuable is his dry Gen X take on certain Bay Area-correlated pockets of the AI alignment scene whose cultural peculiarities continue to shape our visions of the technological future.’ - ERIK DAVIS, author of HIGH WEIRDNESS

‘Watkins was the sole witness to the weirdest - and perhaps most important - story in AI. His rigorous obsession with this mystery will become yours.’ - CULLEN HOBACK, director of MONEY ELECTRIC 

Wednesday, 16th September 7pm

Want to know more about AI?

SolidGoldMagikarp - A Descent into the AI Underworld a book by Matthew Watkins is a gripping descent into the hidden psychology of AI, and the strange subcultures trying to control it before it destroys us!

Watkins will be in conversation with Latham about the book and how his time in Berkeley, California studying a precursor to ChatGPT led to mind-boggling discoveries and ultimately, some hope for humankind.

Mathematician Matthew Watkins is also a local historian, DJ, psychonaut and 'the most exhiliratingly intelligent author of the thousands I have met' , says Dr Martin Latham, author of the Penguin paperback  The Booksellers Tale, and Waterstones Canterbury Manager 1990-2025.

An innocuous looking trigger word sent a frontier language model into what looked like full-blown paranoia. Was it a simple bug? A trail of breadcrumbs left by whistleblowers? Or a glimpse into how AI really thinks?

The search for answers pulls Watkins into the sci-fi world of AI safety research. In this rapidly expanding domain, the line between science and belief blurs: billionaires play god while rogue chatbots win fortunes and cult followings. What starts as a computer mystery becomes something much bigger: both a window into the eerie inner worlds of large language models. 

‘Top notch. Unfolding like a nerdy occult techno-thriller, Watkins tells the weird tale of how he discovered two ghosts in the LLM machine - ‘glitch tokens’ whose uncanny behavior makes it clear, at least, that AI will enchant as much as it will disrupt. The deets are important, and Watkins presents them with care and clarity. But equally valuable is his dry Gen X take on certain Bay Area-correlated pockets of the AI alignment scene whose cultural peculiarities continue to shape our visions of the technological future.’ - ERIK DAVIS, author of HIGH WEIRDNESS

‘Watkins was the sole witness to the weirdest - and perhaps most important - story in AI. His rigorous obsession with this mystery will become yours.’ - CULLEN HOBACK, director of MONEY ELECTRIC